Version 1.29 has been released. In this version: [list:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Added support for Vavoom master server.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Improvements to model skin support.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Fixed monster infighting.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Fixed net game getting stuck when a packet sent from client is lost.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Added support for intermission background scripts.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Added support for mouse controllable menu controls.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Added support for all finale types in all games.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Added support for DeHackEd exlosion style for rockets.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Added support for different blood colours.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Added support for voodoo dolls.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Most of the actor classes moved to DECORATE.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Added support for model frame interpolation.[/*:m:3a99njnv] [*:3a99njnv] Added support for compiling progs in the engine, progs now are in source form in PK3 file.[/*:m:3a99njnv][/list:u:3a99njnv] Enjoy!

I'll have that master server running as soon as possible (which may either be in a couple of hours, tomorrow, or the weekend). When the master server is up, you'll see a couple of dedicated servers I'll be hosting on it (so it will be worth the wait).

Great! I didn't play to much yet but it looks very good. I'm interested in this:

Added support for compiling progs in the engine, progs now are in source form in PK3 file.

Perhaps now I can understand how to do it: I wrote the code for an actor, in the notepad. What I have to do now to include it in a wad and make it works?

[quote="Noxitoc":9xt3ips3]I'm interested in this:

Added support for compiling progs in the engine, progs now are in source form in PK3 file.

Perhaps now I can understand how to do it: I wrote the code for an actor, in the notepad. What I have to do now to include it in a wad and make it works? You do not need to include it in any wad, instead put it in <your game mod folder>\basepak.pk3, creating any subfolders in archive if necessary: basepak.pk3 -> progs/game/

Good news everyone. I got the master server online (not sure if its working as of yet), but Jenis has been informed of the IP and we are just waiting on him to tell us how to retrieve the server list via vavoom. I have not yet hosted any dedicated servers yet because I'm not sure if you can host them on the same machine that has the master server.

So when will I be able to play this on the master server Edward850 <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) --> I like the update <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->

You won't be able to play on the master server, just broadcast other servers on it.

Wov! I'm gonna download it right now! <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> Nice features!

[quote="Edward850":1fzs3tum]You won't be able to play on the master server, just broadcast other servers on it. Yeah I know that keep in mind that I play Skulltag religiously <!-- s:wink: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><!-- s:wink: -->

Why vavoom is 40x slower than, for example, glboom-plus? Tried map05 @ 32innail.wad <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=15454">http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=15454</a><!-- m --> I have 650 fps in glboom-plus and 15 in vavoom with the same resolution and without dynlight core2duo 3.0, gforce 8800 P.S. Also you can't play this level in vavoom without big HOMs in main room (precision problems I think)

Drop down the console and type "build_gwa 1" before starting the game, this will force the engine to build glNodes for the maps and vis data which will greatly improve performance. As for HOM errors, those are mapping tricks not supported by the renderer yet, I guess that's something to improve in the next versions.

[quote="Firebrand":117u1dsi]Drop down the console and type "build_gwa 1" before starting the game, this will force the engine to build glNodes for the maps and vis data which will greatly improve performance. 60 fps. Still 10x slower. [quote="Firebrand":117u1dsi]As for HOM errors, those are mapping tricks not supported by the renderer yet, I guess that's something to improve in the next versions. It's not a trick. Vavoom can't handle big open areas. Like old versions of prboom or Eternity.

60fps is the top FPS Vavoom allows, I don't know if this will change in the future (but I don't see why this couldn't be increased).

[quote="Firebrand":v0frsztv]60fps is the top FPS Vavoom allows, I don't know if this will change in the future (but I don't see why this couldn't be increased). I have 70 fps top on my machine.

Well, I've never gone past 60fps, so I thought it was like that... guess it's not the case then <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->.

[quote="Firebrand":1c8simta]60fps is the top FPS Vavoom allows, I don't know if this will change in the future (but I don't see why this couldn't be increased). I know vavoom has fps limit (72 for me) The same test (32innail.wad map05 at the start) on p4 3.0 + Radeon 9600Pro: vavoom - 7 fps glboom-plus - 160

Hmm, I have the same slowness. Map 05 , very first room: 1 fps without building GWA, 5-6 fps with GWA. But I also noticed that when you pause the game either by hitting Pause or calling ingame menu, fps raises up to 40-50. What can be a reason of this change? Something is not updated/drawn during pause, and that "something" cause that terrible slowdown then?

It still renders the level, so this is not a problem then. It must be something in the gameplay code then. Will check it out.

What happened to there being a master server?

There is, but Jenis hasn't yet released how to get vavoom to talk to it, and nobody's hosting any servers to play on.

I don't know the IP or how to host servers for Vavoom <!-- s:oops: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s:oops: --> One of us could try and get IDE's dev team to try and get it to support Vavoom <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> Does Vavoom launch multiplayer games like csDoom? If not then IDE cannot support it. I say use an internal browser(wink wink nudge nudge Janis <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P --> )

It does, somewhat. It's all there in the help file. Also the server dns for the master server is 'vavoom.servegame.com'.

offtopic[I wonder if any Skulltag developers would wanna help with Vavoom's multiplayer development]

What's the minimum bandwidth to play Vavoom online?

I'd say something like 10-20 kilobytes per second.

While I agree that including the progs compiler in the game executable is a good idea - it would still be good to install precompiled progs and maybe cache the internal compiled code. This would speed up game start on slower machines. I am finding that starting the game can take a few minutes at the moment. <!-- s8) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /><!-- s8) -->

For those of you who want to play online: I have made a quick suggestion to Janis, other then asking him to compile a Linux build for the master server, because I find windows unreliable for hosting servers, for a tool that will allow me to alias IP's that the master server returns so I can not only list my own local ones (so the master server doesn't return a local IP... yuck), but also allow me to ban abusers. If someone hosts a server thats completely off its edge (mostly unwanted server names), I could filter it out by using an alias to physically make the server unpingable to clients via nulling its IP.