Does anyone know of a sample/tutorial wad showing sloping in action?<br><br>If you have one, or know where I can find one please contact Mike.

HXDemo.wad has slopes and water in it. Download from the vavoom site.<br><br>I was going to write a tutorial for slopes after my one for water but couldn't really get the hang of slopes. :'(

Doom2 and Heretic demo maps also have slopes.

> I was going to write a tutorial for slopes after my one for water but couldn't really get the hang of slopes.

I understand how slopes work now thanx.<br><br>Sorry I beat you to getting a water tutorial up. Have you seen it?

Hmm, that slopes method (the one in regular VaVoom) is kinda bad :/<br>How about adding the linedef slopes that ZDoom has? <!-- s;) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" /><!-- s;) --> (the ones that dont need a thing to be placed to work)<br><br>One thing I've always thought would be cool (but quite hard to add in, and editors would also have ot be modified), is the ability to define a single vertice's height. This way, you could slope floors in the exact way you'd like...

One thing I've always thought would be cool (but quite hard to add in, and editors would also have ot be modified), is the ability to define a single vertice's height. This way, you could slope floors in the exact way you'd like...

<br><br>You mean like what you get for proper 3D game editors like UnrealEd. If so I think its a good idea but hard (and I think someones said it befor) it would make mapping alot easyer for vavoom.

Yes, YES... being able to set the height of vertices (I guess they're the same as vertexes, or?) would be a real great help for creating complex outdoor sceneries. I once built a small hill... the first 2 slopes about 90 degrees to each other were easy, but putting the corner piece between them took me maybe an hour or more and in the end I was very pleased when it aligned perfectly at least to one of the sides (and was not good on the other side).

A ZDoom style sloping shouldn't be hard to implement. In lots of cases it's easier to use, and use sloping with things where it can't be done with lines.<br><br>Vertex heights is OK if all sectors sloped are triangles, but for other shapes you would have to do a lots of calculations in order to make them coplanar.

for natural landscapes I always use triangles so it shouldn't be to hard from me but useing things is hard to get it looking good.

Hey I'm ready to use triangle sectors any time if I can set vertex heights.  ;D<br><br>BTW if you implement all 3 methods in the end, I guess there'll have to be a priority list for the engine to know which method overrides which one if more than one present.

OR you just be careful and try not to slope more then one way at a time <!-- s:P --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":P" title="Razz" /><!-- s:P -->

Hey, the vertex height idea is possible - by adding another 2 thing types (one for floor and one for ceiling) that, placed on a vertex, defines it's height.

Vertex heights in action:<br><br>[url:390ti323]http://www.vavoom-engine.com/images/shots/vertheights.jpg

Whoa, I guess the most beautiful about this one is that making the slopes on that shot took a minute or 2, right? <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --><br><br>Am I right in guessing this new technology mostly solves the problem I had with the roofs back last year?

Whoa, I guess the most beautiful about this one is that making the slopes on that shot took a minute or 2, right? <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

<br>Yep, that was really fast and easy.<br><br>

Am I right in guessing this new technology mostly solves the problem I had with the roofs back last year?

<br>AFAIR - no, what you needed was a way to copy a slope. With this method you need to calculate z values of all vertexes. Copying also will be implemented in next version as whell as other ZDoom sloping things and sloping with line special.

Ah, that's another thing I need and already forgot... what I meant yesterday was something else, an easy way to put sloped roofs on houses that have many rooms (and thus a ton of sectors), where the original Vavoom method of calculating sectors would've been impossible, especially that it requires whole numbers (or however you say them in English).